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		<title>By: Ciabatta catastrophe - how do you measure up? &#124; Eating Out Loud</title>
		<link>http://www.eatingoutloud.com/2008/03/ciabatta-bread-in-less-than-5-hours.html/comment-page-1#comment-4482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciabatta catastrophe - how do you measure up? &#124; Eating Out Loud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rather disgusting, both in taste and texture. I guess I&#8217;m on a ciabatta roller coaster having great success recently, now followed by a ciabatta [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rather disgusting, both in taste and texture. I guess I&#8217;m on a ciabatta roller coaster having great success recently, now followed by a ciabatta [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice! I used your hydration ratio - very high but it works. Reduced to 1/4 tsp inst. yeast and 1 tsp salt. fermented overnight and to just contain it poured ciabatta fashion into two silicone forms. Tremendous. Many thanks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Reg from South Africa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice! I used your hydration ratio &#8211; very high but it works. Reduced to 1/4 tsp inst. yeast and 1 tsp salt. fermented overnight and to just contain it poured ciabatta fashion into two silicone forms. Tremendous. Many thanks.</p>
<p>Reg from South Africa</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I will definitely make this again- either way it was delicious. It may be time for this amateur cook to invest in a kitchen scale!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. </p>
<p>I will definitely make this again- either way it was delicious. It may be time for this amateur cook to invest in a kitchen scale!</p>
<p>Kate</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.eatingoutloud.com/2008/03/ciabatta-bread-in-less-than-5-hours.html/comment-page-1#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, bad math -- the difference should be 4.9 ounces, not 5.9 :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, bad math &#8212; the difference should be 4.9 ounces, not 5.9 :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.eatingoutloud.com/2008/03/ciabatta-bread-in-less-than-5-hours.html/comment-page-1#comment-2027</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate: Sorry to hear about all the experimenting!  I think you were close to the right amount.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Using weight measurements is most precise since there isn&#039;t any possibility for deviation, 1 pound is 1 pound.  When converting from weight to volume measurements, there is alot of room for error.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For example, if I scoop 1 cup of flour directly from my flour bag, the flour will be compacted.  I will have much more flour in my 1 cup than if I had filled the cup by shaking in 1 tablespoon of flour at a time.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Curious to test this out, I just ran into the kitchen and tried both of these approaches. :-)  I used a big soup spoon to scoop the flour from the bag and shook the flour onto the scale.  I then took this flour and poured into my measuring cup.  The 17.6 ounces resulted in ~3.5 cups of flour.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I then did the reverse to see how close I would be if I had used just my measuring cups.  I used a measuring cup to scoop flour from the bag then leveled with a knife.   I took the measured flour and weighed it.   Using this method, 3.5 cups of flour weighed 22.5 ounces!  A difference of 5.9 ounces.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would suggest measuring your flour by using a spoon to fill your measuring cup and aiming for 3.5 cups of flour.  This should give you a close approximation of the weighed flour.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s important to note you should be using bread flour as this has a higher gluten content and also helps to attain the correct texture.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I attempted ciabatta yesterday using a regular &#039;full method&#039; as found in a recipe from Epicurious.  It was a disaster -- taste and texture were both bad.  I&#039;ll post photos later today.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let me know how this turns out for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate: Sorry to hear about all the experimenting!  I think you were close to the right amount.</p>
<p>Using weight measurements is most precise since there isn&#8217;t any possibility for deviation, 1 pound is 1 pound.  When converting from weight to volume measurements, there is alot of room for error.  </p>
<p>For example, if I scoop 1 cup of flour directly from my flour bag, the flour will be compacted.  I will have much more flour in my 1 cup than if I had filled the cup by shaking in 1 tablespoon of flour at a time.  </p>
<p>Curious to test this out, I just ran into the kitchen and tried both of these approaches. :-)  I used a big soup spoon to scoop the flour from the bag and shook the flour onto the scale.  I then took this flour and poured into my measuring cup.  The 17.6 ounces resulted in ~3.5 cups of flour.  </p>
<p>I then did the reverse to see how close I would be if I had used just my measuring cups.  I used a measuring cup to scoop flour from the bag then leveled with a knife.   I took the measured flour and weighed it.   Using this method, 3.5 cups of flour weighed 22.5 ounces!  A difference of 5.9 ounces.</p>
<p>I would suggest measuring your flour by using a spoon to fill your measuring cup and aiming for 3.5 cups of flour.  This should give you a close approximation of the weighed flour.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to note you should be using bread flour as this has a higher gluten content and also helps to attain the correct texture.</p>
<p>I attempted ciabatta yesterday using a regular &#8216;full method&#8217; as found in a recipe from Epicurious.  It was a disaster &#8212; taste and texture were both bad.  I&#8217;ll post photos later today.</p>
<p>Let me know how this turns out for you.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely inspired by your post I made this yesterday and it was delicious. However, I was thrown off by the 18 ounces of flour- I was at home with no internet or scale.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So...I did it with four cups of flour and got a delicious bread- but much more of a standard dough, not the snot-like pourable stuff in the description. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So...I tried again with two cups of flour- this was completely liquid and bubbled but never rose, so I added in about a cup more flour (but it didn&#039;t get beaten in) and let it rise some more. This was, I think closer to what it should of been and also delicious. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So... any advice? How many cups of flour? Would the two have worked if I had beaten it more and really let it rise and rise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely inspired by your post I made this yesterday and it was delicious. However, I was thrown off by the 18 ounces of flour- I was at home with no internet or scale.</p>
<p>So&#8230;I did it with four cups of flour and got a delicious bread- but much more of a standard dough, not the snot-like pourable stuff in the description. </p>
<p>So&#8230;I tried again with two cups of flour- this was completely liquid and bubbled but never rose, so I added in about a cup more flour (but it didn&#8217;t get beaten in) and let it rise some more. This was, I think closer to what it should of been and also delicious. </p>
<p>So&#8230; any advice? How many cups of flour? Would the two have worked if I had beaten it more and really let it rise and rise.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astra: Thanks!  I just finished the last of the ciabatta last night and now I&#039;m going through withdrawal :-)  I need to make some more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astra: Thanks!  I just finished the last of the ciabatta last night and now I&#8217;m going through withdrawal :-)  I need to make some more!</p>
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		<title>By: Astra Libris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astra Libris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks absolutely brillient! Wow! I can&#039;t wait to try it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks absolutely brillient! Wow! I can&#8217;t wait to try it!</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter: Thanks!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ginny:  Thank you!  Hope you&#039;ll give it a try and see how it compares to your other ciabatta experience.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Clay: Thank you!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ben:  I almost added some whole wheat flour for the health factor, then decided not to mess with the recipe just yet!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Kevin:  Thank you!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Manggy:  You noticed my nooks and crannies - yes, they eluded my english muffins, but I&#039;ve achieved them in my ciabatta!  Flip-flop shaped ciabatta will be just fine - do I detect a bit of perfectionism in you?  :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Erin:  I&#039;ve been waiting for someone to point out that I missed a few spots with my butter knife :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: Thanks!</p>
<p>Ginny:  Thank you!  Hope you&#8217;ll give it a try and see how it compares to your other ciabatta experience.</p>
<p>Clay: Thank you!</p>
<p>Ben:  I almost added some whole wheat flour for the health factor, then decided not to mess with the recipe just yet!</p>
<p>Kevin:  Thank you!</p>
<p>Manggy:  You noticed my nooks and crannies &#8211; yes, they eluded my english muffins, but I&#8217;ve achieved them in my ciabatta!  Flip-flop shaped ciabatta will be just fine &#8211; do I detect a bit of perfectionism in you?  :-)</p>
<p>Erin:  I&#8217;ve been waiting for someone to point out that I missed a few spots with my butter knife :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I think that slice of bread needs a little more butter ;)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great images!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think that slice of bread needs a little more butter ;)</p>
<p>Great images!</p>
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